Modesto "Dutch" Solares 1883 - 1949


BIRTH NAME: Modesto Arcadio Solares
BIRTH:      1883 01 12 New Orleans
FATHER:     Ramon Solares
MOTHER:     Juana Vinet

SIBLINGS:   Ramon Pedro Solares [Jr] 'Raymond'
            Joseph Ramon/Maria Solares 'Pep'
            Esperanza Magdalena Solares 'Nina'
            John Roman Solares
            Seraphin Francisco Solares 'Frank'
            Maria Marguerite Solares 'Maggie' 'Margaret'
            George Alice Solares *
            Clemence Solares 'Clem' *
                *[Mother = Georgina Marie Houidobre]

MARRIAGE:   1907 01 18 New Orleans
SPOUSE:     Helena Ulrich	
CHILDREN:   Lloyd Solares
VOCATION:   Iron Foundry worker
MILITARY:   no record
DEATH:      1949 shown on Hope Mausoleum gravestone 
             [official record not found]


Modesto Solares ca 1900
   1883 - New Orleans, Louisiana Birth Records Index, 1790-1899

Given:      Modesto Arcadio 
Surname:    Solares 
Father:     Ramon 
Mother:     Juana Binet [1]
Sex:        M 
Color:      W 
Birth Date: 12 Jan 1883 
Volume: 79  Page: 970  

Dcert Modesto Solares

Be it remembered, That on this day to=wit: the First of March
in the year of our Lord One Thousand Eight Hundred and Eighty Three and the
One Hundred and seventh of the independence of the United States of America,
before me, JOSEPH JONES, M.D., President Board of Health 
                             and Ex-Officio Recorder of Births, Deaths and Marriages,
in and for the Parish and City of New Orleans, personally appeared
Ramon Solares, a native of Spain
residing at # 437 North Rampart Street who hereby declares, that
on the twelfth day of January of this present year, (Jan 12/83) 
at his aforesaid residence was born a male child, named
Modesto Arcadio Solares (white)
lawful issue of Deponent a native of Spain
aged 35 years, occupation Grocer and Juana 
Binet a native of Spain, aged 32 years,
Thus done at New orleans, in the presence of the aforesaid R. Solares
as also in that of Messrs. B. B. Howard & P.H.Lanauze, both of this City,
witnesses, by me requested so to be, who have hereunto set their hands, together with me, after 
due reading hereof, the day,month and year first above written.

[sig] Ramon Solares [sig] P.H.Lanauze   [sig] B B Howard
[sig stamp] Joseph Jones, M.D.
President Board of Health and Ex-Officio Recorder
[Author notes: [1] Modesto's mother was Juana VINET. The misspelling is a phonetic error.
In Spanish, the V is usually sounded like B as in Habana, Cuba. In 1883 New Orleans, as elsewhere, errors abounded as recorders wrote what they heard.


   1907 - New Orleans, Louisiana Marriage Records Index, 1831-1925

Name:      Modesto Solares			
Age:       23 [1907 - 23 = b.1883 - correct]		
Spouse:    Joseph Ybos	
Comment:   Widow Spouse 2
Age:       26 [1907 - 26 = b.1881]
Marriage Date: 18 Jan 1907
Volume: 28 Page: 705

Name:      Helena Ulrich 		
Age:       26 [1907 - 26 = b.1881]
Spouse:    Modesto Solares 
Age:       23 [1907 - 23 = b.1883 - correct]
Marriage Date: 18 Jan 1907 
Volume: 28 Page: 705  
1 child was born to Modesto & Helena: Lloyd.

MARRIAGE CONFUSION
surrounding widow of Jos Ybos

MARRIAGE RECORD
Name:   Joseph Ybos
Age:    21  [1883 - 21 = b.1862]
Spouse: Leonora Uhrig  [is this Lina? Helena Ulrich?]
Age:    21  [1883 - 21 = b.1862]
Date:   01 Oct 1883
Volume: 10  Page: 182

DEATH RECORD
Name:   Joseph C. Ybos
Age:    32 yrs  [1897 - 32 = 1865 - close enough to 1862]
Date:   04 Feb 1897
Color:  W
Page: 84  Volume: 113

BIRTH RECORD
Given:  Joseph Clement
Surname:Y'Bos
Father: Pierre
Mother: Catherine Chardin
Sex:    M
Color:  W
Date:   02 Nov 1862  [matches marriage record]
Volume: 33  Page: 259


[Author notes:
Based on the record, Modesto married the widow of Joseph Ybos who d.1897. But the spouse of Jos Ybos was named as Leonora Uhrig b. 1863. Helena died in 1929 age 47 making her birth 1882 which is a close match for her age at marriage in 1907; was 26 = b. 1881.

Ybos m. Leonora in 1883 when Helena was age 1 or 2.
In the 1910 census Modesto's wife is Lina? age 38; he is 29, 9 yrs younger than wife, but was only 3 years younger when they married in 1907.
This posits her birth year about 1872.

1. We have Leonora Uhrig born 1862 m. Jos Ybos 1883, the year Modesto was born.
2. We have Lina in 1910 census age 38 = born 1872, married Modesto 1907.
3. We have Helena Ulrich age 26 on marriage record = born 1881.
Something is wrong with this picture but so far I have not found and convincing solution. Please send me an email if you figure it out.

There are no other records of a marriage between Modesto and any other person than Helena Ulrich / widow of Joseph Ybos. The surname Uhrig could easily be a transcriber's error in place of difficult to read Ulrich on marriage record. The age discrepancies are another matter entirely.

If Modesto and Helena were not divorced between 1908 and 1910, the wife Lina shown in census is the same Helena and must be the same Leonora who was married to Joseph Ybos.

   US Census Records for Modesto Solares

1900 - US Census New Orleans, Louisiana - 1213 Touro St
Name             Born     Place       Father
Modesto, Son     1883     NOLA        Ramon 62, Head	

1910 - US Census New Orleans, Louisiana - 2103 Marais St
Modesto, Head         age 29   NOLA	
Lina, Wife            age 38   La    [nickname for Helena?]
Lloyd, son            age  1   La
Joseph Ybos, Stepson  age 22   La
Richard "      "      age 19   La
Edward  "      "      age 19   La
Marguerite " Stepdau  age 14   La 

1930 - US Census New Orleans, Louisiana - 1589 Spain St
Modesto, Head        age 47   La    [note: Helena died in 1929]
Lloyd, Son           age 21   La
   1929 - New Orleans, Louisiana Death Records Index, 1804-1949

Name:       Helena Ulrich Solares
Age:        47 yrs
Death Date: 23 Dec 1929
Color:      W    Page: 1321   Volume: 199
   Other Records relating to Modesto Solares

1945 - U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946
Name: Lloyd R Solares 
Birth Year: 1908  
Race: White, citizen  
Nativity State or Country: Louisiana  
State: Louisiana  
County or City: Orleans  
    
Enlistment Date: 10 Nov 1945 
Enlistment State: Georgia  
Enlistment City: Fort Mcpherson Atlanta  
Branch: No branch assignment  
Branch Code: No branch assignment  
Grade: Staff Sergeant  
Grade Code: Staff Sergeant  
Term of Enlistment: One year enlistment  
Component: Regular Army 
(including Officers, Nurses, Warrant Officers, and Enlisted Men)  
    
Education: 2 years of college  
Civil Occupation: Clerk-Typist  
Marital Status: Single, without dependents  
Height: 99  
Weight: 999
Young Lloyd Solares

1980 - Social Security Death Index
Name:     Lloyd Solares
SSN:      433-09-9897
Last Residence: 70116  New Orleans, Orleans, Louisiana, United States of America
Born:     22 Jul 1908
Died:     Mar 1980
State SSN issued: Louisiana (Before 1951)

The Times Picayune 1980 Obituary Index Orleans Parish Louisiana
Source The Times Picayune News Paper
March 27, 1980
Lloyd R. (Prince Raja) Solares
[Author notes: no death record found for Modesto as of 2006 02 18. he was living in 1947 when this writer was age 10 and met him at grandmother Maggie Hepburn's home on Harding Drive in NOLA.




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